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Old 04-10-2007, 09:15 AM
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Thumbs up RPN Havoc/IBE Epistane

Since I'm still researching and awaiting shipments for my dbol/test-e cycle and my buddy bought me a bottle of RPN Havoc for my birthday last week I decided to give it a shot.:wave

A little info on this stuff:
Manufactured by two brands, RPN (Havoc) and IBE (Epistane).
http://www.epistane.com/
http://www.recomp.com/

Epitiostanol*
2a,3a-epithio17a methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

1100% as anabolic and 91% as androgenic as plain methyl-test.

Schedule
Week 1 - 20mg/day Havoc
Week 2 - 30mg/day Havoc
Week 3 - 30mg/day Havoc
Week 4 - 40mg/day Havoc
Week 5 - 120mg/day Toremifene Citrate
Week 6 - 90mg/day Toremifene Citrate
Week 7 - 60mg/day Toremifene Citrate
Week 8 - 30mg/day Toremifene Citrate

Ancillaries
Optimum Nutrition ZMA (Evening)
Optimum Nutrition Whey (Evening)
Muscle Juice 2544 (Morning)
Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle (Morning) - Will soon be replaced with Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

My stats
  • 5'5'' 145 lbs ~12% body fat
  • Started lifting about 2 years ago at 110 lbs
  • I've lost 10 lbs from 155 lbs since new years. Partying and alcoholism owned me.

Feelings
So far so good. My strength is up and I am able to workout much longer and exert twice the effort without getting fatigued. My appetite has also gone through the roof, which is actually the first thing I noticed. As far as negative sides go, I've only experienced a little joint pain but nothing serious.

Comparison Sets - Flat dumbbell bench press
Last week - Natural
Set 1 - 50 x 10 (lbs per arm x repetitions)
Set 2 - 55 x 8
Set 3 - 60 x 6

This Week - 20mg Havoc
Set 1 - 65 x 12
Set 2 - 75 x 8
Set 3 - 80 x 6

December 06
Set 1 75 x 14
Set 2 85 x 10
Set 3 95 x 7

Compared to last week, I feel GREAT.

*Chemical names and anabolic/androgenic ratio from BB.com and AM.com

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Old 04-12-2007, 08:55 AM
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Gained 2 lbs since Monday. I look a bit leaner. Vascularity has definitely increased and I still can't stop eating.

No negative sides other than my wallet being lighter from buying so much god damn food. Joint pain is gone and one pimple appeared on my right shoulder. I still feel great.:D
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Awesome, keep us posted. :thumbup

Also get some before and after pics.
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:16 PM
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Definitely. I'll try to find a good before pic. If I can't find one then I'll shave and take one.2
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Definitely. I'll try to find a good before pic. If I can't find one then I'll shave and take one.2
haha.. I know what you mean. We hairy chest men have it hard.
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You can always wax, or try putting some nads on your chest.
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Josh, that wording just doesn't read very well. LOL

Disco, have you kept up on the BB.com threads regarding the testing of Epistane and Havoc? If not..... might wanna get on that. Independent lab results are out!
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Josh, that wording just doesn't read very well. LOL
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I know, I was trying to think of the name of that product for 20 minutes, I couldn't resist through the name of that product out with the hairy chest comment.
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You can always wax, or try putting some nads on your chest.
I have some nads but I can't get them to reach my chest. How do I stretch them?
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Josh, that wording just doesn't read very well. LOL

Disco, have you kept up on the BB.com threads regarding the testing of Epistane and Havoc? If not..... might wanna get on that. Independent lab results are out!
I looked at a couple blood results a while ago and the lipid panels looked alright. I'll spend some time on BB.com looking at the rest of the results. Let's see what I'm getting myself into this time.2

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Look for threads started by Mike McCandless.... he posted the test results, and I think you'll be able to find further info into the "scandal" there.
Apparently Molecular Weights aren't matching up or something, questions concerning concentrations, etc..... which leaves people wondering what's truly there....
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Haven't had much time for anything lately.... too much school and work. I even missed bimmerfest.:( I read a bit here and there but it sounds like Havoc has a smaller concentration of the active ingredient than Epistane and due to it's double bonds it does not de-methylate as much?

Oh well, it's over now. I gained 9 seemingly dry pounds over the course of 4 weeks. I actually think I leaned out a bit and gained some vascularity back but that might be because of high blood pressure. The gains were extremely slow (but dry) and weren't as much as some other PH's I've taken. But the entire cycle was virtually side effect free. No dehabilitating muscle cramps, no migraines or nose bleeds, and no water retention. Best of all there was no waking up in the middle of the night to my heart trying to beat its way out of my chest and my left arm and leg numb coupled with a pounding head ache on the right side of my head, forcing me to cut the cycle 1.5 weeks short.

I'll try to get some pics within the next few days if I find some free time.

The online source was out of Toremifine so I ordered Tomaxifen instead. This stuff tastes like shit.

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