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Old 03-29-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Update on my progress (and how can supplements help me)

I am starting to do pilates every night before I go to bed, and I've lost about 4 lbs total since I started tracking my calories last month.

I would really like to lose an additional 10 lbs before May, is there any supplements that you guys would recommend that could help me acheive my goals?

I normally don't drink any caffeine at all, as I have sleeping problems to begin with.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:28 PM
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Bellavus,

By eliminating caffeine you eliminate about 80% of the products on the market. Which makes things a bit simpler. If diet is in check, and you are working out effectively to burn calories, then some non-stimulant products will still be effective for you. Look into products containing sesamin, or green tea extract standardized properly for little to no caffeine.
A couple suggestions off the top of my head include Appplied Nutriceuticals Lipotrophin-PM, and Scivation Sesamin or MAN Vaporize. Another worthwhile product for those looking to lose is Beverly International Lean Out.
Keep in mind there are many more. I am not comfortable outright suggesting any products I do not feel are completely safe however. if you ask specifics, I will answer to the best of my ability however :-)
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thanks for the suggestions. How do these non-stimulant supplements work?
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thanks for the suggestions. How do these non-stimulant supplements work?
excellent question...I want to know the same thing
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Yes, it is a great question. Well, where to begin. I guess with a "pardon me if I ramble"...........

Different non-stim products contain different ingredients designed to help one lose weight. They differ from the stimulant based products by their ingredients, but therefore more importantly by the mechanism of action.
The majority of products on the market rely on a kitchen sink approach of piling in 3-4 powerful stimulants and a few supporting role ingredients. While these work well for some people, for others they are just not an option.

There are countless ingredients being utilized in one way or another in non-stim fat loss products. The ones that have the most promise seem to in general be beneficial to overall health as well. Through supplements, there are not a ton of pathways in your body that fat loss can be stimulated, but there are a few. The obvious path is through increased metabolism and/or heartrate, along with thermogenesis. This is mainly achieved by stimulant type fatburners. The healthier products can achieve results by methods that do NOT affect the heartrate. i.e. non-stimulant.

Click here for the technical writeup on Lipotrophin-PM.

http://www.appliednutriceuticals.com/lipo_pm_tech.htm

This will do a 20X better job at explaining than I could do here with my rambling typing style. Please read through and get back with any specific questions. The writeup will explain the product, but also the ingredients utilized. Other products contain some of the same ingredients, though none in the combination we have or in the ratio we have presented. Ours is the best, but then again I am biased! hahaha. I invite you to try the competitors though as well. I am linking you to the technical writeup not as an ad for the product, but moreso to provide info on some of the major non-stim fat loss ingredients, and to save myself some typing!!!!!!!!!!

Non-AN products: Another ingredient that many swear by that we do NOT use is Sesamin (extract from sesame seed oil). Search Sesamin for further info on this ingredient or http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/southfacts_sesamin.htm.

Also, Beverly International Lean Out is a product that many natural bodybuilders SWEAR by. I use it and love it as well. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bev/lean.html

The above links are not intended as advertisements. I'd prefer you DIDN'T buy from that site, as it tends to be a bit pricey.


I'll also go ahead and hint that Dirk (AN formulation specialist) is working on some promising non-stim fat loss products to complement the Lipotrophin-PM. An appetite suppressant that does not stimulate perhaps? But you didn't hear that from me..........
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I'll also go ahead and hint that Dirk (AN formulation specialist) is working on some promising non-stim fat loss products to complement the Lipotrophin-PM. An appetite suppressant that does not stimulate perhaps? But you didn't hear that from me..........
awesome info and cleared up my questions. i am totally looking foward to the new products!
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what is the reason why you don't use sesamin?
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what is the reason why you don't use sesamin?
Well, short answer is that we don't want to be copycats. Scivation and Avant Labs both came out with quality Sesamin products, and many companies followed suit. There's only so many things you can do with an ingredient to innovate...... so nothing against the ingredient, the market is just saturated as it is. Applied Nutriceuticals is creating it's own path with innovative products.
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