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Old 06-30-2007, 09:42 PM
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Hi there,

i have been facing a severe problem for the last 4 months caused by too much squading and playing basketball.

Since late february i have been literally in bed, apart from the time spent by the sea, since my legs feel very heavy and my hands very weak, i have neurohormonal problems and other sorts of breathing difficulties and sleeping problems. Last but not least my mood has been tapered and i suffer from great fatigue.

All this after exercising for 4-5 months without resting properly.

I have tried everything to recover from cold baths at sea, cold and warm baths at home, massages, weigh protein supplements, glutamine, excess carbo intake arginine, zinc you name it.

Really nothing has improved, i still feel totally wacked and there was a point when i couldnt even get out of bed or lift my head out of it and watch tv i would get severe breathing inconsistency heart rhythm alterations, nausea tendency to vomit and so on. I think my sympathetic system got messed up in a sense, i cant explain all this in any other way.

Now what bothers me the most is this neverending weakness in my upper limbs, i cant even lift my hand to wipe my sweat along my forehead and writing in the computer is an extremely difficult chore nowadays. Moreveor legs feel dead and stiff and walking is a great problem. Last but not least when i breathe i feel so weird like i dont like the oxygen i breath, or like i cant get all the oxygen i need.

What can i do? (apart from rest rest rest) I have tried swimming it makes my breathing and mood worse, like cortisol and testo levels get messed up or like a flu is about to come.

Hormone panels are all ok apart from free testo which is borderline low or lowest sometimes and sgpt is high since i tried taking stuff and supplements to get a boost but in vain i guess..

Apart from that i have done most of test i could, even heart and liver and spleen ultrasounds, several other physical examinations and most if not blood tests possible. Really there is not much to explain from tests for all this. I understand it is a neuroendocrine failure due to some sympa or parasympathetic autonomic system messing but dont know hot to get out of it!!!!


PLS HELP ME
thanks in advance

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Old 07-01-2007, 01:58 AM
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it sounds like to me you may have mononucleosis. Did they check for that in your blood tests? It is a specialized blood test.
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:06 AM
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well it sounds like your under the care of a physcian, what have they suggested for exercise. Another thing you should ask your physcian if they do clear you for exercise is if they can send you to a registered clinical exercise physiologist.
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it sounds like to me you may have mononucleosis. Did they check for that in your blood tests? It is a specialized blood test.
Yeah, for sure. Do you have a yellowish tint to your skin?

My brother's doctor thought he had mono for about 2 or 3 weeks, it turned out he was fairly sick with hepatitis.
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:13 PM
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No, i dont have mononucleosis, i have done several viral tests and anyhow it doesnt resemble anything like a viral infection.I am a medical student by theway and pretty much know what the epstein barr virus causes in short and longterm.

As i said all this was caused after squading in the gym and during a period of extreme stress, i also worked part time in a restaurant and played basketball 2-3 hours a day and in general never stayed at home apart from couple of hours of studies.

It has happened to me last yt as well after squadding and biking but it didnt last that much and wasnt so extreme. I was told it could be overtraining syndrome but this time it is too difficult to overcome. I feel my nervous system is completely out of control, my coordination sucks, fatigue is all over, i have very bad mood and walking is extremely strenuous since my legs feel like they are stuck in cement.

Anyways i will look around for answers, thanks
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:35 PM
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Hmm s0b,

What were your training programs like, you stated training but didn't mention frequency, intensity, time, or recory. What was your diet like during that time frame. The more info the better.
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:51 PM
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Well i trained my legs once a week and that was normally on mondays
and rest of they body also once a week and that i would do generally on wednesdays

Thursdays i would play basketball as well as on saturdays.
Friday saturday and sunday i also worked in a restaurant, and did a lot of running around for around 5-6 hours.

Training volume was average, squatting and benchpress i did between 80 to 110 kg, 3-4 sets a time for 8 reps max. Rest of the exercises involved isolated muscle groups so no need to mention i guess.

The whole problem is i would exercise even if i felt very tired and probably thats what messed me up. I would push my self, and never miss any day regarding basketball or gym or work. I realised something went wrong during lifting in the gym when suddenly i started feeling very awkward and bad. Since then i had several problems ranging from heavy and inmobile legs to headaches, nausea, incoordination problems, fatigue, increased heart rate after walking for a while and several others too extreme to mention really.

My diet was ok, maybe i received less proteins than i should, around 1 scoup of 80% whey protein per day and rarely ever twice a day, maybe on very hard working days, but i would receive a lot of carbos so i dont really think it was a diet thing to start with, i never really went on to feel hungry.

Anyways, what can i say, i just dont know how long this thing is going to last, its been 4 months now, and the only confirmation i have about this problem is from 2 swimming coaches that suffered from similar symptoms and they told me to be patient about it. I ve been in this situation for 4 months though, and still no real improvement
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:02 PM
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With intense and prolonged training certain athletes experience overtraining, staleness, or burnout. The over trained conditions reflect more than just a short term inability to train as hard as usual or a slight dip in competition level performance as you mentioned you were a swimmer. It involved more chronic fatigued experienced during exercise workouts and subsequent recovery periods. It associated with sustained poor exercise performance, frequent infections mostly upper respiratory, and general malaise and loss of intrest in high level training. Injuries are also more frequency in the overtrained state. Although the specific symptoms of overtraining are highly individualed. We really don't know the etiology of the syndrome. What we do know is neurondocrine alternatons that affect the sympathetic nervous system, as well as alteration in immune function are likely involved.

These symptoms will normally persist unless you get some rest. With complete recovery requiring weeks or even months. But like you said you are around month four now. So has the symptoms been getting better or worse?
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:18 PM
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Cant really say, its has been better some days and then i regressed to the worst state. Those days i was better i would just walk around a maximum 50 to 100 meters and next day i would feel twice as bad. There was a point i couldnt even stand up or read or watch tv i would get neurological manifestations or tendency to vomit, nausea and other weird feelings.

Anyways, i thought some one might have suffered similar problems in the past...
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Old 07-02-2007, 06:07 PM
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Are you still trying to be physically active.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:10 PM
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I try swimming but it made me worse, it gives me breathing problems and since last month i feel my arms and hands have a terrible feeling of weakness and nervous tension. I cant even write in the comp sometimes
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What are the symptoms of Fibro Myalgia, and CFS?

edit FM is pain. nvmnd.
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So your not doing anything physical just normal ADL's
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